The Venue Search

What I've been looking for:

Conference space with onsite bedrooms - there's two reasons for this: the first is that getting UK venues to give complimentary space for this many people is getting increasingly difficult unless they're getting the revenue from accommodation. The second reason is to enhance the community aspect - the venue will be ours 24 hours a day and we'll have reduced food and drink prices (and bedroom rates).

London - I have considered other locations if they had particularly good transport links including access to an international airport. I've even looked at Scotland but London's the capital, it's easier to get cheap flights or rail tickets, there's more to do once you're there and everyone's heard of it. Of course, given how little a lead-in time we've got, it was a bit of a mammoth task to find somewhere in budget with availability.

What I've got:

The Radisson Edwardian Hotel at Heathrow (http://www.radissonedwardian.co.uk/heathrow.h...)
Dates: Thursday 16th to Sunday 19th October 2008

It's a 5-star hotel near Heathrow airport with excellent links to the city. Obviously there are disadvantages to an airport venue but given the transport links, we should be OK with that and it does mean prices are significantly cheaper than central London. I've been to events there in the past and some friends of mine are runnng Eastercon (British Science-Fiction Convention) there next year so I'm confident the hotel will do us proud.

We will have room hire at no cost on the condition that we fill 200 bedrooms per night - from previous experience, that's perfectly possible with the right price. I can't give the prices right now as I have to confirm a few things. There will be single, doubles/twins and triples available. I'll also be looking to negotiate an overflow hotel to provide discounted family rooms (to sleep 2 adults plus 2/3 children) if we need it, there are a few options within a 5 minute walk of the Radisson.

We will have the following rooms:
Commonwealth Suite (Theatre: 700) - this room will be used in full for the main sessions but can be split into two T300 rooms for other programme.
Royal Suite (290m2) - I intend to set this up similar to the 'Social Room' at Barcelona although there's a few other things to be discussed in a post that isn't already too long.
Edwardian Suite (Classroom: 50-60) - for workshop type programming and any smaller items.
Ascot and Tetworth (Theatre: 100 each) - couple of programme rooms.
Richmond and Windsor (Boardroom: 25 each) - for roundtables and BoF sessions.

We'll also have the Connaught/Belvedere for catering and the Commonwealth Suite's Atrium can be used for registration and an info desk.

What do you think?

Hayley

Complication

Now they're saying they can't do the Thursday and would we shorten it to three days *headdesk*. Which gives us two options:

1. Find a different venue.
2. Shorten it to three days but include programming beyond the normal 9-5. We'll have the venue in the evenings so we could do programming till later, allowing time for dinner.

Thoughts?

Biggest question - Is there

Biggest question - Is there a requirement for the event to be held for 4 days? I mean will it affect our chances of getting the Drupalcon if we were to have it for 3 days rather than 4 days?

I don't believe so. It

I don't believe so. It depends if we'd *want* to shorten it for that.

Chandeep's picture

Whats the latest then, i

Whats the latest then, i think 3 days will be sufficient. Radisson Edwardian is a good hotel, I live 10 minutes away in Hounslow.
Is November still likely to happen ?

No, not this year anyway.

No, not this year anyway. Hopefully we can go for 2009.

Warwick

Warwick University campus gets transformed into a 1200 capacity conference venue outside of term time. I'm trying to get some kind of total cost from them, but it would likely be an 'all in price'.

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/conferences/

More to follow.

Re: Warwick

Good to hear from another interested party. Let us know what prices you get out of them - I've not dealt with Warwick since 2004 so I don't know if there pricing has changed much. It's a lovely place but back then the prices were a bit on the steep side.

Notts

- Nottingham university has a massive technology centre, with two or three large rooms and another six or so smaller ones
- it also has a lot of on site housing that is vacant over summer break
- there is a large train station, with a direct link to calais via St Pancs (read: brussels, paris, etc) this would possibly make less flights necessary from european attendees which is a bonus green point
- there is an airport 20 min drive away, with frequent bus service, with flights to lots of european destinations
- it's right on the M1 so easy to get to by road from almost anywhere
- nottingham is central to the whole UK, including Wales/Ireland/Scotland
- notts has loads of hotels
-- is near to plenty of interesting stuff
-- has lots of bars/clubs/restaurants
- london is bloody expensive and massive

Edit: http://www.emcc.co.uk/ hm apparently only up to 850 ppl ... I could have sworn they could get more in than that...

Robert Castelo's picture

...and it has a great pub

...and it has a great pub called The Trip To Jerusalem Wink

...and I live there

Jubilee Campus is probably the best bet. If I remember right, there's a massive lecture theatre type thing and a whole bunch of other rooms. Their student accommodation though is no cheaper than a hotel - they quoted me £50/night last year - which is annoying and we'd have to shell out room hire on top.

I'll look into it next week unless you want to?

...and so do I.

Also, it has quite a few good pubs, as long as you stay out of the very centre of town (danger zone).

EMCC is very modern and well looked after - it probably also has the best sized facilities. I can't comment on Jubilee as I've never been, but what about the SU (Portland), that has some pretty big rooms?

I have to say I think the EMCC would be best though, but it's not big enough. It would certainly accomodate a UK drupalcamp tho, and I would imagine we could fill that from western europe also. A "MiniCon", if you will. Not sure how that would sit tho, really.

My knowledge of the conference scene is somewhat limited in terms of organisation. I still maintain that location-wise, notts is pretty good though.

I wonder how much it costs to rent a pair of coppers for a weekend...?

EMCC not really viable

I'm not one to say 'it won't work' with no reason so here's my explanation and hopefully it makes sense:

The EMCC offers two large rooms (1x520 and 1x850 theatre style), four further 'breakout' rooms (80-100 people) which are actually subdivisions of a mezzanine area (I think) and a large gallery area.

That'd be enough space for programming but isn't very flexible. For medium size programme items, we'd either have a half empty lecture theatre or a packed solid breakout room - neither is ideal.

The other problem would be feeding people. There's nowhere in walking distance to eat so we'd be feeding people on site (or allowing long enough for them to drive/bus into town and back). This would have to be done in terms of a buffet catered by the venue except we'd have to empty and rearrange the main programme room on a daily basis to achieve it thus losing at least 2 hours per day to reset and let people eat.

Norwich

Have you thought about Drupalcon in Norwich.

A historic City just 100 miles from london, its exactly the right sort of city at the right size for Drupalcon and would be much cheaper than london.

The University of East Anglia (UEA) is at the height of technology in the UK and should easily be able to accomodate a conference like this.

If you would like me investigate further let me know.

Size of UEA

UEA's largest lecture theatre only olds 485 - if we're looking at a 1000+ person event that wouldn't be big enough for the keynotes unfortunately.

In its current form

In its current form Drupalcon can't go on growing indefinitely as it begins to limit where it can take place and hence who can attend. So there might be a place for not-quite-so-huge Drupal gatherings...

Giles Kennedy --> www.alexoria.co.uk

Guidelines

I agree that numbers will have to level out somewhere but the Association guidelines do ask for a plenary room that will seat 600. The smaller gatherings are usually DrupalCamps rather than cons which don't require Association approval.

How about

Or Imperial College, London

Or Imperial College, London http://www.imperial.ac.uk/conferences/index.a.... Looks like the Great Hall holds 750 http://www.imperial.ac.uk/conferences/index.a.... Perhaps that's not quite enough? Other London university campuses might be an option too. I wonder if any of them has an interest in Drupal already and might be keen to host a Drupalcon?

Giles Kennedy --> www.alexoria.co.uk